The noseband was first created to keep the horse's mouth closed. Nowadays, it seems almost as an essential part of a bridle in the hunter/Jumper world so for hunters it is seen as more for style than to actually keep the mouth closed. A properly fitted regular noseband is too high to close the mouth anyways. For jumpers there are regular nosebands as well but can include some commonly seen ones like:
Flash noseband. This is connected to a regular noseband but is a leather strap that fits around the horse's mouth to keep it closed. This is great for horses who like to put their tongue over the bit. (I ride all OTTBs who have developed that habit from racing) .
Figure-8 Noseband. This achieves the same basic goal as the flash noseband but buckles under the cheekbone of the horses head as well as around the mouth. This type of noeband puts pressure just on the middle of the horse's nose which allows for more range of pressure and is a bit less invasive on the horse's nostrils.
Drop noseband: a drop noseband can be described as a regular noseband that just fits around the mouth and is more or less parallel to the ground. It is part of the crown piece and comes down very far and is a leather oval-shape that fits solely around the mouth. This is good for horses that maybe don't like a whole lot of pressure, as it is only focused on keeping their mouth closed and doesn't put any pressure above the muzzle area.
As far as fitting goes, I would consult your trainer.
A properly trained horse does not evade the bit.
Evading the bit = evading pain or memories of pain.
It might not be you, maybe sometime who rode him before.
I guarantee you any horse can be ridden without. In fact no horse should be ridden with.
I'm sure you're capable enough as a rider to not need such aid.
Well you should know he only did it when I was on the ground and he would do it with everyone that handled him. He also had a habit of biting so it made it a little more difficult for him to take a chunk out of someone. Not everyone can go without a bit some horses are just to strong. Every horse is different, their sensitivity is different. Please stop trying to force your views onto everyone else trying to answer Ms. Fords question, we are giving her input, and not her to be criticized.
Even if it's not pain, he tried to avoid disconfort, if you didn't know, a horses mouth is very sensitive, with many nerves. A bit, even in good hands, pull the tong into the throat and causes tongs tissues traumatism, same for the palate and the jaw. A normal bit causes an average pressure of 100 to 150 kg per square centimeter, even an pressure 10 times less important causes pain. These informations come from scientific survey and medico-legal exams. This is proved, and you"re not an exception.
So please before you start telling everyone that their horses are in pain because of their bit or nose band of all things check yourself
Sorry Margaux but you don't know my horse. Not every horse is in pain. My bit was checked by my vet and dentist and it wasn't a problem.
Your horse tried to put his tong over the bit to avoid the pain caused by the bit on his palate. Look at this video and you will understand
I used a flash on my ottb gelding who would try to get his tongue over the bit ever time I rode. Just tight enough to be affective! There is nothing wrong with using one if it's done properly and used accordingly! :)
*working out well and that the rider focuses on how to fix the problem rather than masking it.
Even the classic single noseband should leave room for two fingers so the horse can chew. Chewing is very important for the decontraction and suppleness of jaw, neck, back and hind end , what the noseband does is impeding it almost completely.
I never ride any horse with a noseband or flashband. If they open their mouth there is a far bigger problem to be actually fixed.
There are many gadgets to fix a riders lack of education. (Not in an offensive way) Draw reins, side reins, nosebands, flashbands, martingales, are all tools used to mask a training error.
The effect of a noseband is to keep the horses mouth closed so it can't avoid the pressure and pain.
If a horse 'needs' a noseband I suggest the rider doesn't use a bit because it is evidently not working or well
It's used to silence the horse from the pain caused by the bit, it prevent the horse to open his mouth to avoid pain. Look what a bit does and you'll understand.
It discourages maneuvers that enable your horse to evade the bit, like crossing his jaw or holding his tongue over the bit and it helps to hold the bridle in place.
It helps you to keep your horse's mouth softly closed and quiet. This encourages contact with the bit that's essential for communication and control.