So getting him colected how then? You've got me confused haha. I've always done and been taught that method and it's always worked with bitted horses?
I believe that would create a more downhill horse - when using halfhalts I want the horse to lift his shoulders and sit on his haunches. But you can still half halt bitless nonetheless.
I've always been taught to do by using half halts while pushing the horse so his energy transfers to hind? That's why I wondered if it was the same
has nothing to do with the head. all comes from the hind