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I have a horse that is in a Waterford Pelham for Fox Hunting and it doesn’t seem to give the breaks I need what would anyone else recommend

I have a horse that is in a Waterford Pelham for Fox Hunting and it doesn’t seem to give the breaks I need what would anyone else recommend
Have you tried a ported straight bar or happy mouth bit? They might be more in the right direction if he puts his tongue over the bit
Hi Ben I have tried that but he does get his tongue over the top of a straight bar, and gong back to a straight would be a less strong but compared to the Waterford Pelham he is in at the minute
I would try a flexible rubber straight bar Pelham or normal rubber straight bar Pelham. I use them for cross country on my horses who have no brakes in a steel straight bar Pelham.
Honestly I would just try to be very consistent about bringing him to a halt if he gets too strong, even if you have to use a one rein stop and even back up several steps. My horse used to do this whenever I would bring her to where we do canter & gallop sets but after she learned I would one rein stop and make her back up if she ran through my hand, she figured it was better to just listen. Now, I can do my conditioning in a snaffle. It takes time but it’s worth not getting run off with
Hi Kira, the flat work is fine in the Pelham he listens and does what I ask him to do every time. When he gets to the hunt meet he is very well behaved and stands like a rock, but once we all move off he gets way over his head and thinks canter half pass up the road is more than satisfying for himself. He’s never naughty her just loves his hunting but trying to get brakes is difficult.
Honestly if a Pelham isn’t helping, it’s probably a sign that flatwork is needed. A waterford Pelham is fairly strong and has good breaks. While schooling, get really good transitions off your seat & leg. Lots of halt-canter and canter-halt. Also you can always use a one rein stop if they get too strong